The SX Mini series of mods are well known in the vape world for their high-end chipsets and quality construction. The devices feel great in the hand and the chip allows for more tweakability than any other chip on the market, including the DNA200. Every time YiHi manufactures a new generation of chips, they release a new mod to introduce it. This time, the SX Mini Q Class introduces the SX450J chip. On top of that, this is the first SX Mini mod with a dual battery design which not only increases battery life, it allows the user to fire up to a whopping 200 watts. Letโs dive in to see what else is new with the SX Mini Q Class.
The build quality is on par with what I have come to expect from a mod in the SX Mini line. The batteries fit very nicely and the buttons feel great; theyโre clicky without any kind of sponginess to them. The doors are also quite solid and donโt really bend at all. The magnets are nice and strong and hold the doors on very well while still allowing you to take them off without a ton of effort. My only complaint is the tolerances of the doors: they sit flush with the frame so you wonโt notice any gaps, but when you grip it tightly and move your fingers up and down, you will feel the doors shift slightly. Itโs not a huge deal, but I wouldโve preferred the battery tubes from the previous generations where the batteries slide in from the bottom and are held in by screw-in caps. That wouldโve eliminated the need for doors altogether. I do understand why they went with the doors though, it makes it simpler to swap batteries.
The mod feels okay in the hand, but is quite large. This is just my opinion and is most likely due to my small hands and the fact that Iโm used to using smaller, single 18650 mods. It is relatively ergonomic, but as not as much as the ML class. However, the slender profile makes it feel comfortable in the pocket. The finish is also a bit slick and doesnโt have the grip that the textured ML class did. Itโs not slippery per se, but it could use a little bit of texture to add more friction between the mod and the hand, especially for those hot days when your hands are a little sweaty.
One of the most interesting features of the SX Mini Q Class is having the ability to customize the logo and power curves using the SXi software. The ML class also had these features, but required an update as where the Q class can take advantage of these right out of the box. The software may not be the most intuitive to set up, but it is pretty straightforward if you read the instructions provided on YiHiโs site.
First and foremost is the SXi-Q utility, which allows to users to program five different power curves that are stored in the S1-S5 configurations. Itโs pretty straightforward to use and allows you to control the way the you taste your juice. After playing around with a bunch of different settings, I ended up with the configuration seen above for my NarDA built with a single 26g kanthal coil with 8 wraps around a 3mm screwdriver. As you can see, the curve starts off at 28 watts and slowly ramps down over time to 20 watts after about six seconds. This allows the coil to ramp up quickly, but also keeps the heat relatively consistent over the course of a long draw, providing great flavor throughout the entire pull. This is a fantastic feature that is aimed towards more advanced users but it doesnโt come without a few drawbacks. The big one is the fact that you canโt adjust the wattage when using one of these curves. I really wish the points on the curve were percentages instead of power levels to provide greater flexibility in each profile. This would allow the curves to be more generic so they could work in more than one scenario since you canโt adjust the curves without a computer. More of a minor issue is the fact that you can only tweak power levels by a watt, not a tenth of a watt like you can in regular power mode. It may not seem like a big deal, but for someone who almost always vapes under 30 watts, those tenths of a watt make a noticeable difference. For the higher power vaper, this wonโt matter too much.
Creating your own logo is another really cool feature of the SX Mini Q class. Using the SXi software, you can import images into the device, allowing you to customize every possible screen you could ever see with the exception of the SX Mini logo that displays when the device boots up. As you can see above, I was able to replace the โSX450Jโ screen with the Vaping360 logo. If anyone is interested in the logo, you can find it by click this link.
There are five different configurations (C1-C5) that allow you to set everything up to your liking so you can come back to it at a later time (or experiment with other settings without losing your current setup). In each configuration, you can choose the mode of operation (power or joule), temperature, compensation temperature, TCR, power/joules, whether bypass is on and just about everything else on the device. This is a very cool and useful feature for those who change atomizers frequently.
If using all that software seems a little too complicated, there still is a fair amount of control via five built-in power modes available right from the mods interface.ย Here is a rough breakdown of what each mode does:
The powerful modes allow you to overcome ramp up time in large coils that may otherwise get too hot after a short period of time if you simply increased the power.ย Soft mode is for those coils that ramp up too quickly and eco mode is there for when you need to squeeze out the most battery life you can get.ย All very useful features for different scenarios.
This setting allows you to bypass the regulation altogether and use the device as if it were a mechanical mod. The output voltage is determined by the current voltage of the battery. This can be useful when pulsing out hotspots on a Genisis atomizer.
This mod looks so much better in person than it does in pictures. The pictures Iโve seen online make the finish look like a slick plastic with a solid color. In reality, that is hardly true; the finish is a bit slick, but the color is so much more than a solid shade. It has a subtle sparkle that becomes much more apparent in well-lit surroundings. The instant I took it out of the box, I was impressed at how much detail there is in the finish. On my black version, the dark colored frame also blends very well with the black sparkle finish and creates a very appealing and cohesive look.
In power mode, this mod performs very well.ย The different modes act as they should and provide more control over how the mod reaches its power level.ย Thereโs not much more to say about this mode, it works exactly as one would expect.
Temperature control mode on the SX Mini Q Class is just phenomenal.ย I donโt use any wire other than SS316L for temperature control and if you have any experience with this wire, youโll know just how finicky it can be.ย With 8 wraps of 26g SS316L around a 3mm screwdriver on a NarDA, the build comes out to around 0.54 ohms.ย Firing that at 22.1 Joules and 400 ยฐF with a compensation temperature of 70 ยฐF and a TCR value of 0.00089, the vape is extremely smooth.ย I have had issues with some chips holding the temperature constant with SS316L wire, but this mod keeps the temperature steady without any noticeable choppiness or fluctuations.ย I canโt really say that itโs any better than the SX Mini ML class since the temperature control on that was also superb, but it definitely beats the DNA200 in this aspect.
I found that in practice, the SXi-Q modes are very nice and if you set them up right, it can definitely improve your vape experience.ย You do want to be careful not to have to drastic of power level changes since it can make the vape choppy, but if you stick with a smooth curve designed to fix an issue (overcome ramp up time or to tame heat over the period of a long draw), youโll find these modes can be very useful.
The SX Mini Q Class is worthy addition to the fantastic line of SX Mini mods. It is essentially the big brother of them all in every way: it houses two 18650 batteries, fires up to 200 watts and down to 0.05ฮฉ and not to mention, it is the largest of them as well. With all of that said, the SX450J chip doesnโt seem to be much of an upgrade since it doesnโt introduce any features that the SX350J v2 doesnโt have with the latest firmware update. If youโve always wanted a SX Mini mod but never bought one because 75 watts wasnโt enough or the 0.10ฮฉ limit was too high, then this mod was practically designed for you. If you enjoyed the previous SX Mini mods but found that a single 18650 battery wasnโt enough, you should seriously consider this mod. If you donโt fall into the previous categories, then you want to pass on this one. All in all, I think the SX450J is a nice, albeit minor, upgrade to my favorite chip on the market.
Fine review, good Sir. I’m very much enjoying mine. This is the YiHi reference mod I’ve always wanted. I’m generally a dual-18650 or 26650 vaper. Curiously, the board for the SX450 chip is quite long; I’m not confident that we’ll see as many high-end modders making sweet boxes with this chip.
Thanks Ray! I don’t think we’ll see many high-end SX450 mods either since most modders like to keep their designs compact and that’s just not possible with a dual 18650 design. What I’d love to see is some stabwood replacement doors for this thing, that would be pretty awesome.
Unfortunately with all the tight fine lines and curves the SXMini Q class has it wouldn’t be practicable producing stabwood doors/panels.
I can see that, maybe some damascus, timascus or mokume then!?!
I’m going to see if my friend can make some doors with ink patina. Hopefully it works!
If it works out, let me know; I’d be willing to pay for sick new set of doors!
Great review! Appreciate if you can share the rest (s1-s5) of your flavor curve settings.
Have been experimenting this for way too long and yet to achieve any success ๐
Thank you in advance
I didn’t set all of the other configurations, only two or three of them. I’d say the best approach would be to find what wattage you like most with whatever build you’re using. From there, determine what issues you have with your build in standard power mode; i.e. too much ramp up time, too much heat over the course of a long draw etc. There needs to be a problem that you’re trying to solve, otherwise, the SXi-Q curves aren’t going to make the vape any better. With the specific build I mentioned in the review, the issue was too… Read more ยป
I dont think you need to be “fixing a problem” to use the modes. I use mine because I like a cooler initial hit but for it to heat up a little at the end, like it did while smoking a cigarette. I vape at around 65w and my curve is -3w to +5 in a pretty straight line up to 5 seconds (I usually hit my mod for about 4 seconds but I ramp it up to 5 – then have a straight line the rest of the way across.
Hey Kyle, I’d to welcome you to my SXMini Brotherhood group, it’s a great group of owners of YIHI, SXMINI, SX350J V1&V2, SX450J and other custom built devices. https://www.facebook.com/groups/SXMiniBrotherhood/
@JazzyJag:disqus, thanks for the invite but I’m already a member of that group ๐ I loved my SX Mini ML class so much that I looked for an owners group on FB and found that one, nice work!
Really great review, very detailed – and I like how you explain things out so well – thanks!