New York governor signs vaping ban

And legislation to outlaw e-liquid has also been introduced

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Ex-smokers in New York state can no longer legally vape in workplaces, bars, or restaurants.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed a bill Monday night that adds e-cigarettes to the Clean Indoor Air Act. According to the Albany Times Union, the law takes effect in 30 days.

In addition to banning vapes in the workplace and other public gathering places, the law prohibits vaping on public transport, in college buildings, and in any outdoor location where smoking is not allowed.

“These products are marketed as a healthier alternative to cigarettes but the reality is they also carry long-term risks to the health of users and those around them,” the governor said in a prepared statement. “This measure closes another dangerous loophole in the law, creating a ‎stronger, healthier New York for all.”

The governor urged the ban as part of his proposed budget this year. At the same time, he proposed an e-liquid tax that would have crippled vape shops. The tax didn’t make it through the legislative process. Earlier this year, Cuomo signed another bill that banned vaping on school grounds. It’s now illegal in New York to vape within 100 feet of entrances, exits, or outdoor areas of schools.

Is the worst yet to come?

State Assemblywoman Linda Rosenthal introduced a bill in September that would ban all e-liquid sales in the state.

“That kind of product is meant to appeal to kids,” Rosenthal said, according to the New York Daily News. “I don’t know many adults who would like to inhale bubble gum or strawberry vapor.”

Rosenthal has introduced multiple bills to ban or restrict vapor products. The Manhattan Democrat now promises to work together with Sen. Brad Hoylman, who introduced a similar bill in the last senate session. That bill didn’t get out of committee.

“Chocolate, gummy bear, cotton candy, cookies and cream — these are all things that are enticing to kids”

“This is yet another attempt by Assemblywoman Rosenthal to shut down and leave unemployed the owners and employees of hundreds of vapor product retail small businesses throughout New York,” American Vaping Association president Gregory Conley told the paper.

American Cancer Society lobbyist Julie Hart told the Daily News that sweet e-liquid flavors are driving uptake by teenagers. “Chocolate, gummy bear, cotton candy, cookies and cream — these are all things that are enticing to kids,” she said.

Jim McDonald

I spend most of my time studying the regulatory, legislative and scientific challenges to vaping, advocating for our right to exist, and talking with others who do the same. Consider me a source for information, and feel free to agree or disagree with anything I say. I love good coffee and sweet Michigan cherries. My childhood hero was Gordie Howe.

  • Ken Greenwood

    This article makes it sound like a state, city, or even town wide ban. It’s not. It’s not a flavor ban. It’s not a hardware ban. It even says the important taxes they wanted to push in were denied. Not being able to vape in bar, or on school grounds, is completely understandable . Ive been a full time vaper , of over 50mls a day, for over 4 years, and take no issue with not being able to cloud up a grocery store, or vaping in front of a bunch of children. Stop being a fear monger.

    • George Millhouse

      The article clearly states all e liquid. Where do you see anything at only certain flavors ?

      • Ken Greenwood

        I don’t. That was my point. My point was this isn’t like an industry wide “vape ban” . It’s alot less serious or dramatic than he’s trying to make it sound.

    • George Millhouse

      Not to mention they mention that vaping causes harm to others around them…. since when? THAT is fear mongering. They are spreading lies to satisfy their agenda.

      • Juan Pizarro Poventud

        Extremist liberals fear mongering, that’s right.

    • Jim McDonald

      Fear monger? I described exactly what the law does. It is a ban on indoor (and some outdoor) use. That’s a ban.

      How do you manage to vape 50 mL’s a day?

      • Ken Greenwood

        I vape 50mls a day being my own boss, working from home, and doing DIY. It’s actually pretty easy to do. Stop acting like that’s some monumental number. Regardless, back to the matter at hand, you are working the click bait angle. The intentional lack of keywords in your headline makes it appear like it’s a much bigger deal than it really is. I’m not sure anyone in the vape community, besides those who wanna make money from click traffic, would really consider this a “ban” as much as a common sense piece of legislature. If someone IS vaping in a grocery store, or on school grounds, someone needs to take their mod from them on ethics alone, and just bop em in the noggin with it, in hopes they would realize that harms the image of what we are trying to accomplish in first damn place. I see this as nothing more than McDonalds needing to put “Caution:Contents are hot” on their coffee cause some idiot caught em slipping and made a buck off it. There are dumb people everywhere, and the stupid ruin shit for the smart, but this isn’t a closure of vape shops, a flavor ban, or the removal of the right to vape on the sidewalk. You really should start using more detailed headlines, but that would effect your income.

        • Jim McDonald

          Lucky you work from home. If you owned a business that had other employees, or were in an office others could walk into — even if you owned the building and the company — your vaping would be illegal.

          When a product or practice is prohibited for reasons that have nothing to do with science, and when the government legislates what can be decided by private business owners, and regulated with common courtesy, it’s a ban.

          • Ken Greenwood

            At no point did I say it wasn’t a ban. What I said was you make it sound, by negating keywords, ALOT worse than the bullshit, common sense legislation it is. It ain’t no different than a law that says “no cellphones while driving through a school zone”, or “no passing a school bus”. I do appreciate you trying to teach me something I already know, now get back to trying to panic up your readers. I’m done here.

          • Jim McDonald

            The difference, of course, is that prohibiting passing school buses addresses a real safety concern, while eliminating private business owners’ ability to make their own rules for a practice that causes no provable harm does nothing to protect anyone. I’m sorry if our headline panicked you.

          • Ken Greenwood

            Didn’t panic me at all. I have no dog in the fight in NY. Just pointing out your clickbait. As for your idea of a real versus fake safety concern, I’d more say I see it as a respect issue. I don’t believe their reasoning for doing such moves is legitimate by any means, but on a respect level, sure. Maybe a bunch of people who don’t vape, dont want to walk through your clouds. Any fight on the basis of health concerns is truly ridiculous, sure, but nonetheless, if you run a public business, or are in a public business, etiquette is etiquette, and as much as I’d love to vape for the hour I’m grocery shopping, I know other people don’t want to smell my fruit loops liquid, so I don’t cry about not being able to do it there. Now, ban some flavors, close some shops, stop importing all the shitty Chinese hardware everyone has grown to know and use, sure, I’d pipe up and be all over it, but this just seems like another day in the life of any socially acceptable person. Nothing more. They even kicked out the additional taxing, so I don’t see the harm.

          • Jim McDonald

            Well, we agree.

            “… I see it as a respect issue. I don’t believe their reasoning for doing such moves is legitimate by any means, but on a respect level, sure. Maybe a bunch of people who don’t vape, don’t want to walk through your clouds.”

            However, I don’t think issues of common courtesy require state laws. Couldn’t a grocer simply post a sign, or ask anyone dumb enough to vape in a grocery store to please stop? I don’t think it would be an epidemic, just because there’s no specific law prohibiting it.

            What these laws do is spread the ideology of “unhealthy and dangerous.” They equate vaping with smoking, and most of the public is already ignorant on the topic, so they encourage the belief that one is as bad as the other.

            They also make it easier for legislators to pass more laws. And make no mistake, the legislators who pushed these laws will keep coming back for more.

          • Ken Greenwood

            Again, I agree with the upset over their reasoning, but my comment was directed at the supposed seriousness of the legislature. I see this drama as the same as seat belt laws. People wanna say “I shouldn’t be told what I can and can’t do in my own car”. Do what you want to in it, but the minute you pull out of your drive way, you run the risk of flying out of your windshield and into mine, and I don’t wanna clean up anyone else’s blood but my own.
            As for the gateway to more laws ideas, that’s what advocacy is for. Just like any person wanting to get into vaping for the first time, the makers of the laws are ignorant to the topic. They need to be told loud and clear. In their faces. They are wrong. Until that happens, gateway legislature is just the blind leading the masses. Don’t like the laws being passed, vote. Get the ignorance out of the way and get someone in who can rewrite shit. I know that’s the root of this article, and the endgame of what it’s trying to do, but I’ll say again, the title is misleading and broad, appearing monumental, when it’s just a feeble attempt to classify the stuff. Wrongly, sure, but not as dramatic as it reads.

  • Mark Allsopp

    In the UK, the government are trying to encourage employers to allow vaping at work to discourage the employees from smoking. As passive vaping has so far been shown to be harmless, I’m sure this would decrease smoking related deaths and cost the nation less in NHS fees.

    • Jim McDonald

      Exactly. But many American vapers think it’s no big deal to cede those decisions to the government, rather than letting employers and building owners make their own rules.

    • Brian Scott

      The UK government has a vested interest in supporting products that have shown to help smokers quit, pose no real ‘second-hand-vape’ risk, and mitigate the health risks of smoking by 98%. It’s money. The government saves money if people require less healthcare. Because, healthcare is free.

      America, sadly, not so much. It’s easier to pitch a false narrative because, oftentimes, representatives have lobbyists interest in mind. Which is, also, money.

  • Phil Alfred Webb

    I like candy, fruit, drinks and anything that vapes good and tastes good, where did she get her goddamn information from? Is she retard? Enticing to anyone who likes that type of ejuice, tell those dumb bitches that adults like candy and strawberry flavours and would love to know what planet they are from.

  • ApeScorpionDragonManJackson

    Oh. How click bait of you! You REALLY shouldn’t have.

  • Andrew Lane

    The flavour bans really annoy me. Personally I vape a DIY menthol mix but I do mix it up occasionally with the random sweet flavours like bubblegum and raspberry. I quit smoking mainly due to the flavour becoming unbearable to me so I am not going to go anywhere near tobacco flavoured e-liquids (I did get some for my wife but even she couldn’t stand the taste of it).

    The only other person who I talk to about vaping mainly vapes a bubblegum flavour and he is well past even being mistaken for a young person lol